Unlike his ” Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker ” co-stars Daisy Ridley and John Boyega , Oscar Isaac had already established a long and acclaimed acting career before J.J. Abrams cast him as ace X-wing pilot Poe Dameron in 2015âs “Star Wars: The Force Awakens,” including standout roles in 2006âs “The Nativity Story” and 2011âs “Drive,” and leading roles in 2013âs “Inside Llewyn Davis” and 2014âs “A Most Violent Year” and “Ex Machina.”
At 40, Isaac is also old enough to have grown up with the original “Star Wars” trilogy as it was first seizing the globe. So even though heâs spent the better part of a decade inside this generations-defining franchise, he still cannot quite wrap his brain around the idea that he actually helped make these movies. He talked with Variety about that experience and how “Star Wars” obliterated the trick heâs always used to help him make a film.
This is your third “Star Wars” movie, and youâve now been in three of the biggest movies that have ever been made. How are you handling the end? How has making these movies changed how you view the world? Well, itâs interesting, because there was a very interesting mix of knowing that there was this three-film trajectory that was happening, as abstract as that was for me, and at the same time, the uncertainty of knowing that I had to do something but not knowing how I was going to be used [in the movies]. So that was an interesting adjustment. Now, having finished the whole arc of it and being here at this moment that seemed so, so far away at that time when weâre first kind of venturing out on this journey — itâs a really wild place to be, you know, like being on the top of the mountain looking back down at the thing that we just climbed and thinking, âWow, I never thought Iâd get this far.â And itâs also been an interesting journey as an actor with the development of a character. Thatâs always been a bit of a wild card as far as the energy and his use of the story.
As far as my the view of the world, itâs fascinating to see that all those little kids that saw “Star Wars” and loved it so much, and that now have grown up and are even more excited about it now — are the ones that are ruling the world. Like, all of us that, you know, read comic books and watch these things and thought, âImagine if this could happen, imagine if they made movies about this and that,â and now weâre the ones in charge, and thatâs exactly what weâre doing now. Itâs just kind of a funny time. Itâs not a time that any one of us could have imagined.
Has it changed how you see yourself at all, making these movies and being inside the phenomenon of them? Yeah, even with this third film and you know, knowing that thereâs a lot of people that really enjoy the character, itâs very difficult to feel any ownership over this, because it is such a cultural phenomenon. And itâs so much bigger than any one movie, any one performance, any one character. So I donât really feel like an insider, even though I am. I still feel like Iâm kind of looking at it from the outside, being like, âThis is a crazy thing and I just happened to be part of it.â But itâs just so, so massive.
I mean, one of the elements of that for you has been how immediately so many fans latched onto the idea of Poe and Finn as a romantic relationship . Was that something that you could see coming at all when you were in the process of making “The Force Awakens” with John Boyega ? I mean, there was an absolute natural chemistry with him. I immediately felt very connected to him. I remember, it was an audition and the two of us just, like, did that first scene back to back, butt to butt, you know, just like doing the scene together, practicing it in this room. And it was just like immediately all kind of artifice, everything just collapsed, and thereâs like an intimacy that was very just, like, there. And I think the fact that neither of us shied away from that while we were shooting as well, I think it was just like, these are two guys that are happy being intimate with each other emotionally. So it wasnât actually a total shock [that] people, you know, saw that in there. Personally, I kind of hoped and wished that maybe that would have been taken further in the other films, but I donât have control over that.
Thereâs this huge amount of expectation that is completely separate from the people who are actually making the thing, and you are in the middle of it in a way. Howâs that been for you to navigate? Well, I never felt that there was these big fan expectations for Poe. People felt certain things for him, but there wasnât necessarily like, âI hope — they better do this with Poe in the next one.â So I never really felt that so much. If anything, I think the first one, I was able to do the trick that I kind of always do, which is really put myself in the mentality that, âwell, no one might see this and itâs not about that and really, itâs just about whatâs happening right now.â Thereâs no control over what itâs going to be. It was difficult in the second one to kind of maintain that illusion, after seeing how massive it was. So [I was] battling with self-consciousness, and already, you know, thereâs something about these kinds of movies that invite one to be even more self-conscious, because thereâs just so much looking out to, you know, looking back into it, like, what is this tone? What are you supposed to be doing? You know, itâs a very specific small window, the target youâre supposed to be hitting. And so that was definitely a challenge.
LINK ORIGINAL: Variety